It has layers. It's in the name, ffs. How a dog behaves under controlled conditions with lots of repetition is not an accurate portrayal of how dogs will behave in environments with new and unexpected stimulus. This is blatantly false, and it should be obvious. A place for responsible gun owners and enthusiasts to talk about guns without the politics. EDIT: Downvoted for facts. What did I say that is crazy? Surveys of dogs offered for sale or adoption indicate that pit bulls and pit mixes are together less than 7% of the U.S. dog population; molosser breeds, all combined, are 9%.”. Not a question. Not a rant. -source is me training dogs for a while and having more problems with poodles, jack Russell’s, and boarder collies. [–][deleted] 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (2 children), All I have to say is check out emergency room stats. Naturally, golden retrievers are actually more aggressive than pit bulls are. Pit bulls are notorious, so people often will identify an aggressive dog as a Pit bull when the breed is not truly known. Pit bull victims are attacked by trusted family pets or pit bulls that escaped their property or strayed. Forget all of your misconceptions about pit bulls. Towards threats. Pitbulls can be not dangerous as long as you give them the attention they needed. A subjective statement about your position on some topic. A dog’s breed doesn’t define a dog’s personality. While Pit Bulls are certainly strong, they aren’t the biggest of dogs. [–]YouJellyFish 21 points22 points23 points 2 years ago* (3 children), People like to pretend that genetics aren't real when it comes to negative things. How they define a 'threat' is your responsibility. However, in less than a year, their pilot program fully broke down due to problems with the pit bull breed. /r/entitledparents is a place you can put all those wonderful stories of moms or dads thinking that because they have kids they are entitled to everything. Wow I've never found a more perfect moment to use a sentence out of the book of reddit culture. We get it, you all think this sub is garbage and is just for popular opinions, and you want to be funny and post "going to be downvoted to oblivion here, but I think racism is bad." Hi everyone! Of the 602 human fatalities, 326 were killed by pit bulls; 91 were killed by Rottweilers; 461 (75%) were killed by molosser breeds. I don’t have a kid. Genetics don't exist in a vacuum and affect temperament nearly as much as y'all claim. In my experience, the lay public will call any mixed breed short haired dog over 40 pounds a pit or pit mix, so the term is basically useless as an identifier. We should exterminate the whole breed starting now. When these studies lump multiple breeds under one heading (pit bull type) they tend to skew the figures pretty dramatically. [–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (0 children). Not a proposal. [–][deleted] 0 points1 point2 points 2 years ago (9 children). [–]Synthtastic[S] 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (1 child). "The founders' home became filled with dogs and we were thus unable to take in new service dog candidates to train," states the group. What began as a "breed advocacy" service dog stunt in 2011, ended in near disaster. They should be illegal. Anyone know the best place to look up those stats? order corn, This subreddit is for posting screenshots, pictures, or stories of people who are being way too picky, MAY THE COMIC SANS AND LENS FLARES FLOW UNFILTERED. Visual determination of dog breed is known to not always be reliable.45 And witnesses may be predisposed to assume that a vicious dog is of this type. Please make sure to upvote well written unpopular/controversial opinions, and downvote badly written opinions OR popular opinions. They are certainly dangerous. If you raise them right around your kids, then they will protect your kids. Depending on your definition that could include anywhere from 1 to 10 different actual “breeds”. Most people I see talking about pit bulls being dangerous are not animal care professionals. The ones we bred for our own pleasure, [–][deleted] -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 years ago* (13 children). It is true that pits score high on the ATTS. Moreover, pit bulls successfully pass the American temperament test, which assesses friendliness. They get a lot of flak for being deadly but I'm glad that surfer was in dangerous waters. (See Merritt Clifton, 'Pit Bull Roulette' killed 38,000 other animals in 2017.) If what you say is true, ALL these pups would be “dead game” with little to no variability in temperament or aggression. Pitbulls were bred for tenacity and strength and in the hands of the wrong owner, these traits can manifest as dangerous aggression. [–]BrianDynasty -5 points-4 points-3 points 2 years ago* (1 child). [–][deleted] 20 points21 points22 points 2 years ago (8 children). Any opinion that is not well thought out, incoherent, internally contradictory or otherwise nonsensical is subject to removal. Lol what? Please note that while these anti-pit bull articles always cite stats that seem to single out the “breed” pit bull (American Pit bull Terrier) almost never do the studies themselves use the term as a breed and usually refer to “pit bull type dogs”. [–]RandomePerson 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (0 children). Hahaha wow. From their test description page: "The stranger is never closer than 10 feet from the dog. Things that make you go AWW! There is simply no legitimate case of these dogs being bred to be good around children. In other words, Golden Retrievers only fail against a standard set by Goldens. REDDIT and the ALIEN Logo are registered trademarks of reddit inc. π Rendered by PID 28204 on r2-app-01d298756a9da77a1 at 2021-01-11 03:22:46.804732+00:00 running d8cca48 country code: US. Are the dogs that evil and dangerous like in the stories? This should just be in the sidebar since people most misinformed anti-pitbull posts here almost every day. Stories about spoiled children with their entitled parent(s) are also welcome. Pit Bull Fancier, nobody has proved beyond the shadow of a doubt that they’re particularly violent. A pit bull that has a normal upbringing with good owners is one of the calmest, friendliest dogs you can possibly have. A place for sharing videos, gifs, and images of animals being bros. Aww, cripes. Pit bulls pass temperament tests above almost every other breed. Pit bulls are of a breed of dog. If those same shitty owners raised golden retrievers the same way, then golden retrievers would be doing that shit. Your post must be an opinion. You’re right. Combined, pit bulls and rottweilers contributed to 76% of the total recorded deaths. Also, you can read the statements of another pediatric surgeon in regards to the unusually violent nature of pit attacks on children. Too bad every temperament study ever done on dog breeds shows that pit bulls are one of the least innately aggressive breeds that exists. As a matter of fact, the Pit Bull is not a single dog breed.Rather, they’re a collection of four breeds and direct relatives to those pedigree breeds.. That being said, there are four types of Pit Bulls: the American Pit Bull Terrier, American Staffordshire Terrier, Staffordshire Bull Terrier and the American Bulldog. I learned that all dogs have the potential to be agressive, yes. If you are gonna teach your dog to be mean to other people,he will. Insert any breed of dog into your 2 scenarios. I think a pure bread male pit might take more training but it depends on their personality. That is from the article I linked and I'm sure you can find more stats on google. You’re a fucking moron. https://www.reddit.com/r/BanPitBulls/comments/7ic5zn/faq/, [–]urtrashandwrongHates the internet 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (7 children), Pit bulls pass temperament tests above almost every other breed, [–]scoonbug -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (6 children), Edit: I wouldn’t describe the results as passing at a greater rate than any other breed, but they’re better than most “rich white people dogs.”, [–]urtrashandwrongHates the internet 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (5 children). [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago* (11 children). [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (4 children), Do we really need to bring IQs into this because I don't feel like seeing myself on r/iamverysmart, [–][deleted] -1 points0 points1 point 2 years ago (3 children). A place for really cute pictures and videos! Pit bulls are dangerous and should never be around children. Pit bulls do not attack more often than other dogs. It's not that the owners are "a factor," it's that owners are the entire factor. Even the head of the American Pit Bull Foundation, which provides information about pit bulls, thinks people are the problem, not pit bulls. It also doesn’t take into account t that the average person thinks a pit bull is a real breed and can’t tell what dogs are and are not in that breed lol. By Simon Worrall. Mildly interesting stuff. Please contact the moderators of this subreddit if you have any questions or concerns. And I’d do it again. Imagine if all retriever breeds were lumped together instead of there being a clear division between Golden’s, Labradors, Flat Coated, etc. I worked at a shelter and have been trained to understand animal behavior... Also have lots of life experience mate. It's shitty owners that make them shitty. If you raise them with pain and violence, they will view all humans as threats and lash out. You can find a list of the topics and their respective megathreads in a post on the top of the sub. ( except for maybe chihuahuas), [–][deleted] 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago* (13 children). Pit bull is also not a breed, it’s a type of dog that has been used to describe up to 20 different breeds. 1 canine killers of other people's pets and animals, killing more than 75% of those killed by a dog. Fun fact, swimming pools are probably more dangerous than pit bulls in terms of child deaths per year. Also, do you read? I have also met some aggressive pits who I would not trust around kid's but the owner's were a real piece of work, I'll say that. 2 years ago. They are extremely aggressive because they have been bred that way. Because most of their dogs "washed out," the group was then stuck with pit bulls they could not adopt out. They were also bred to protect their owner humans, derp. Back in the day, this breed was meant to hunt lions! Hey guys, did you know that one time a great white shark pushed an unconscious surfer to safety? They’re also misidentified by professionals 50% of the time, so bite statistics are suspect. [–]Synthtastic[S] 7 points8 points9 points 2 years ago (3 children), Of the 5,770 dogs involved in fatal and disfiguring attacks on humans occurring in the U.S. & Canada since September 1982, when I began logging the data, 4,043 (70%) were pit bulls; 4,874 (86%) were of related molosser breeds, including pit bulls, Rottweilers, mastiffs, bull mastiffs, boxers, and their mixes. During the 13-year period of 2005 to 2017, canines killed 433 Americans. His comments weren’t surprising. In 2017, pit bulls killed 13,000 dogs, 5,000 cats and 20,000 horses and other farm animals. And the stats that we have bear this out. [–]PitchMeALiteralTent 3 points4 points5 points 2 years ago (1 child), Or you know, maul your 2 month old baby because there was a knock at the door(happened just today), [–]Calac64 -2 points-1 points0 points 2 years ago (0 children). The pit bull type is particularly ambiguous as a "breed" encompassing a range of pedigree breeds, informal types and appearances that cannot be reliably identified. In the 14-year period of 2005 through 2018, canines killed 471 Americans. But no one says that these dogs are dangerous to humans, so why do they think differently about pit bulls? Because of the fact that people began using and breeding them as fighting dogs, this danger is always present. Try it out lol. Dogs in the pit bull category rank #1 for fatal attacks on children (although to be fair, they rank #1 in fatal attacks on humans in general). You said you can confirm it’s not shitty owners. Pit bulls were originally bred to bring down cattle in abattoirs, and also to bait and bring down big game (bears, bores, bulls) in a fighting pit. If what you say is true, that all pits are aggressive by breeding, how does one explain the culled dogs? Just google "pit bull temperament test" and see hundreds of links confirming this. I work with some trainers that train service animals and the only reason they don’t use pit bull type dogs as service dogs more often is because of the general stigma. So people who know how to be with pitbulls should have them, [–]urtrashandwrongHates the internet 10 points11 points12 points 2 years ago (1 child). This applies for both your behaviour on the sub, and the opinions which you post. Did you miss the part about having to cull most of those pups due to lack of desired traits? I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Also, there is a heavy bias on not only media reporting of pit bull attacks but also for victims of dog attacks to label the dog that attacked them as “pit bulls” regardless of actual breed. I don't think any dogs should be around children AT ALL. Also consider that dog fighters still have to cull the majority of the pups their dogs have due to not being adequate to their purposes (they lack “gameness”). I will never understand people who want to be wrong on purpose. No racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, or general bigotry. If you have a meta opinion, put it in the megathread. Not a fact. These posts are usually, but not exclusively, those that target a particular sex, race, sexual orientation, etc, when the user in question is hostile, vulgar or aggressive towards said group. [–]BrianDynasty -4 points-3 points-2 points 2 years ago (4 children). POSTS DIRECTLY ABOUT THIS SUBREDDIT ARE NOT ALLOWED. According to the American Veterinary Medical Association , that's because the CDC stopped collecting breed data on dog attacks 1998. I also learned that pitbulls and a few other breeds are bred for violence. Support for these laws is based on the misconception that pit bulls are more dangerous and prone to aggression than other dog breeds. The reason that specific pit bulls live up to the negative name is because the dog was bred to be far stronger than, well, anything, and when paired with abusive owners they become aggressive. I love pitbulls but the “nanny dog” thing is so much fabricated bullshit. Pit Bulls are banned in 12 countries around the world: New Zealand, Brazil,Belgium, Canada, France, Finland, Denmark, Poland, Norway, and the U. S.territory of Puerto Rico. And some are, not all, [–][deleted] 6 points7 points8 points 2 years ago (5 children).
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